Socrates vs Islam
Your infinity takes my heart- Whether God exists or not, there will be debate between Socrates and Abu Hanifa. The scheduled time for the debate has passed, but Abu Hanifa has not come yet. Socrates is chatting with the audience. After some time, Abu Hanifa entered as a killer.
Socrates: Ah, finally! But man, why are you so late?
Abu Hanifa: Hey Socrates, an incredible event happened! Couldn't find a boat to cross the river. So a little late.
Socrates: So how can you do Abu Hanifa?
Abu Hanifa: There was a tree by the river. Realizing my helpless condition, suddenly the tree turned into a boat by itself! I got on that boat here!
Socrates: (holding the smile) Wow! Great story! So you mean, trees just boat itself? Can something like this be made without a builder?
Abu Hanifa: Haha! You lost Socrates. I brought out my demand with your mouth. If you believe that such a vast and complex universe was created by itself, why can't this tree become a boat by itself? If there is a creator in this simple, trivial boat, there must be a creator in this universe.
(Abu playing a gentle smile on Hanifa's face. The audience bowed down after seeing the wisdom of Abu Hanifa. Suddenly, the sound comes together; Takbeer, Allahu Akbar.
Socrates: So tell me, is there a craftsman behind the boat?
Abu Hanifa: Of course!
Socrates: Does that craftsman spell boat from zero, or convert wood?
Abu Hanifa: Convert wood.
Socrates: So if the universe also has a creator, did he transform any element, or create from complete zero?
Abu Hanifa: created from zero!
Socrates: (seriously) But you say yourself, boats turn from trees! So what do you mean, God works just like a carpenter in the creation of the universe, never again?
(A young audience laughed out loud) Abu Hanifa is a bit uncomfortable.
Socrates: Do you agree that God is infinite?
Abu Hanifa: Yes, of course!
Socrates: And do you agree that he created everything from zero?
Abu Hanifa: Yes!
Socrates: So tell me, can emptiness and infinity stay together?
Abu Hanifa: No, they are opposite each other!
Socrates: So, do you admit that creation from zero is impossible? Because if God is infinite, emptiness should not exist! What exists then is nothing but God.
Abu Hanifa: (surprised) but... But... God is almighty!
Socrates: Being almighty does not change the rules of logic, just as the most powerful king in the world must follow the rules of logic. If the king says, "I am so powerful that I can do two and two to five," would the rules of the numbers change?
Abu Hanifa: (scratch head) No, no change...
(Viewers started laughing) )
Socrates: Now, say, didn't you say God was only before the creation of the universe?
Abu Hanifa: Yes, it was God alone!
Socrates: So, where did the element of the universe come from?
Abu Hanifa: God Himself created!
Socrates: But if there is nothing but God, is the material of the universe God himself?
Abu Hanifa: (surprised) No, no! I mean
Socrates: You said emptiness is impossible to coexist with infinity, so do not find any emptiness to create an infinite God, because to create the universe, he must remove himself and bring emptiness.
But can God remove Himself from Himself?
Abu Hanifa: Do you mean that God creates the universe when it is infinite? God can't put it anywhere, because wherever He goes to put the universe, He is already Himself?
Socrates: right so. When God is infinite, He only has two options. One is not creating the universe, and another is converting into the universe with its whole or partiallyin.
Abu Hanifa: But you are thinking God's place. The infinity and emptiness you bring God to place is an illegal prediction.
Socrates: I guess nothing, Abu Hanifa. Isn't the Quran the water that your Allah's throne was on before the creation of this universe? If Allah Himself uses the word "water" and "above" before making a place according to your faith, what did I guess that is illegal?
Abu Hanifa: But this water can be used as a metaphor.
Socrates: Will there be a new Ohi to understand which is a metaphor and which is not a metaphor? You might tell we don't know what that "water" is like as a place, we don't know how "over" the direction word "over" actually is.
Abu Hanifa: Got it.
Socrates: So we here logically agree that if God is infinite, He is the transforming universe.
Abu Hanifa: For now, I am in the sake of argument. Let's see where you take me!
(Viewers started whispering) Someone said, "Then everything in the universe is part of God! "Someone said, "It's kind of omnipotent!"
Socrates: Well, do you believe that no one else is God except God?
Abu Hanifa: Yes, that's the truth.
Socrates: So if the universe is transformed into God, then why not consider any being separate from this universe as God?
(The buzz begins in the audience) Some people started thinking with their heads, and some gave a smile. Abu Hanifa tried to say something, but no words came out.
Socrates: (winky eyes) What would you say, friend?
Abu Hanifa: (Fast Up) My... I have some much needed work to do! (Got out)
(Viewers burst into laughter) Socrates smiled gently. Those who used to say "Allahu Akbar" after every word of Abu Hanifa also quickly left behind Abu Hanifa.
Reference :
1. Plato's Apology
2. Abu Hanifa's Great Fiqh
3. The Qur'an
4. Ibn al-‘Arabi’s Fusus al-Hikam
5. David Hume’s Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion
6. Thomas Aquinas’ Summa Theologica
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